The Emotion Code with Lynn Tucknies
Podcast
Episode:
The Emotion Code with Lynn Tucknies
by Danielle Searancke
TW: Sexual assault, traumatic birth experiences shared in episode
I have been wanting to share one of my personal healers, Lynn Tucknies of Inner Hero Healing, with you for a long time. I was referred to Lynn through a friend and had sessions for 10 months. I will be resuming weekly sessions and having Lynn work with my son again too! We were waiting until she went full-time into her healing career to do this interview, and the time has come! Since teaching a class on the Emotion Code in the Spirit School Collective, many of my students have had amazing experiences working with Lynn. I am so happy to share her with you through the podcast!
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Episode:
The Emotion Code with Lynn Tucknies
Spirit School Podcast
TW: Sexual assault, traumatic birth experiences shared in episode
Some highlights from this episode include:
Emotions can get trapped and cause emotional and physical discomfort in the body.
The Body Code takes into account other facets such as the emotional and spirit body.
Trapped emotions can be inherited from past generations.
Nothing's going to come up that is not ready to be released.
After it is cleared, you can look back at an event without the negative emotions.
Lynn explains that a curse can be as simple as that person thinking something negative.
Lynn believes the modality can work on those who are neurodivergent.
Being open-minded is what makes a good candidate for the Emotion Code.
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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
Welcoming Lynn Tucknies of Inner Hero Healing to Spirit School
Danielle Searancke: Hello everyone. And welcome back to Spirit School. I'm very excited to share another guest here today on the podcast who is one of my personal healers Lynn Tucknies of Inner Hero Healing. How are you doing today, Lynn?
Lynn Tucknies: I am great, Danielle. Thank you for having me here. It's gonna be fun.
DS: It is gonna be a lot of fun. I have wanted to share you for a long time on the podcast, and we definitely wanted to time it for when you went full time in your healing career, which we will definitely get to you through this podcast. I recently shared you as a guest mentor in the Spirit School Collective, and I know so many of my students have chosen to work with you ever since that class. And they have been really enjoying it and getting so much out of it. So I'm excited to share you with my wider audience today through the podcast.
LT: Thank you for sharing me. Yes. I love being shared. This is wonderful.
Supporting Others in Spiritual Entrepreneurship
DS: I love it too. That's what I love about like the spiritual entrepreneurship space. Like when we do it in powerful and empowering ways and just like share one another and do it in the spirit of wanting to see everyone succeed, and like everyone do really well, only magic and healing happens from that. So, I'm extremely happy to be able to share you because I think you're wonderful.
LT: Thank you. I think you're wonderful too. It's a great modality to watch everybody grow and heal and yeah, we all want the best for each other and we're all here on this journey to do the very best we can in our highest expression of ourselves.
What is The Emotion Code?
DS: Absolutely. Awesome. Okay. Let's just get started because I wanna start with the very basics. What is the Emotion Code? This is your chosen healing modality. How would you describe it to me, if I was five years old?
LT: Okay. If you were five years old, I would tell you that this really nice man, who's a chiropractor made this modality. We won't use modality if we were five, but we pretend you know what that word means. Basically it's about trapped emotions, the Emotion Code. There's two modalities. One's the Emotion Code. One's the Body Code. It started out with the Emotion Code by Dr. Bradley Nelson. He was noticing that, say someone came in with a sore shoulder, it'd always be sore and he'd fix it and it'd be sore again. And he'd fixed it and sore again. And he started noticing that that person was having certain emotions and events going on in their lives that were causing this same trapped energy that he was having a hard time clearing. So, he actually started keeping track of everybody. What was going on, what part of their body, what emotion they were experiencing.
Emotions Get Trapped in our Bodies
LT: And that's basically the birthing of the Emotion Code. Emotions can get trapped in our bodies, anywhere in our bodies, and cause discomfort. Emotional discomfort, as well as physical discomfort. And with the Emotion Code, we find the emotion through muscle testing and we clear it through clearing the governing meridian.
And it's really as simple as that. The Emotion Code's a part of it, but the Body Code is much bigger where it takes many different facets of our body, emotional body, spirit body, chakras, acupuncture points, meridians, all sorts of things it takes into account. And we do the same thing because energies can get trapped anywhere in our bodies, causing many types of disharmony.
Unconscious Trapped Emotions
DS: Yes. Is it fair to say that many of us are walking around with trapped emotions that we are like not consciously aware of?
LT: Oh, it is so true. That is exactly what happened to me. I was doing all the work. I was doing all the mirror work. I was doing all the positive affirmations. I was rewriting my story. I was doing all of this. And I'm still thinking, as I'm listening to Louise Hay over and over again, telling me, all the things that she tells you, I'm thinking, God, there's something deeper than this. I need to dig deeper. What is it? I knew there was more. And then someone told me about the Emotion Code.
LT: A friend of mine said she was going for a session. Just that name alone intrigued me. And I said, what is that? And she says, oh, they just go, and they release trapped emotions. And I thought, well, that sounds horrible. I said, so what do you mean by that? What, we're gonna find anxiety, let it loose? And what, like, this sounds like a really bad idea.
Energetic Clearing of Trapped Emotions through The Emotion Code
LT: And she says, no, it's just clearing energetically. And you feel fine, and you feel lighter, and you feel happier. And I said, are you sure? She says, yeah, it's wonderful. So, that's exactly what happened to me is I felt there was more, things I wasn't getting at, even though I was doing all the right things we were supposed to do.
LT: And when I started doing the Emotion Code on myself, I was right. Mm-hmm I was right. There is more. And a lot of things that we have trapped within us, sometimes we wonder where it came from. It could be inherited from someone else, generations ago.
Identifying Trapped Emotions
DS: Yeah. And that's what I have found. Like, just to give a bit of context for people, and I appreciate you sharing your origin story, because I was wondering like what made the Emotion Code stick out for you? What made it like attractive for you, and made you wanna go into it as your body of work? And so thank you for sharing that. And so the audience knows as well, I found Lynn through my best friend, Trish Osterberg who is an incredible healer herself, an Indigenous healer. She started having sessions with you. And she would send the writing to me and how accurate they were, because you do these beautiful writeups of different trapped emotions. And then the evidence behind it is like the ages. This happened at 19 or this happened at like three. And there's like this unlocking that happens when you're like, yes, I do remember that.
Starting Emotion Code Healing Sessions
DS: And we just consciously kind of forget about it, and we kind of get used to living with it and then we're like, yes. Okay. We just need to name it. We need to see it. And so I started seeing Lynn August, 2021 and I went weekly for, I think, like 10 months. It was amazing the stuff that we gotta work through. We got to look through my stage fright, was one of 'em, right? The fear of judgment, which was kind of tied in with that. Like there's so many patternings and so many cycles that continue to come up for me that the Emotion Code has really helped clear. And then I also just wanna share my experience here and ask you a couple questions around this, because the funny thing is, is like, it's almost like taking Advil when you have a headache.
Effects of the Healing Sessions
DS: What I realized was I was kind of unconscious of the changes that were happening until the next time we talked. You'd be like, oh, how was this for you? And I would have to look back and be like, oh wow, that wasn't even an issue this week.
DS: So, you know, I consider myself to be quite self-aware. But the beautiful thing that I have personally experienced with the Emotion Code is how subtle it is, but how big of an impact it has. So, I'm curious, like, you know, your experience in some of the transformations you've been able to witness your own clients through, like, what are some of like the most, maybe common or most magnificent that you have seen through this modality?
The New Normal after Emotion Code Sessions
LT: Well, you've nailed it perfectly. Your prior existence almost becomes obsolete immediately, and your new normal becomes such as that your new normal. I've had one client, my very first time I did a session with her she said, I feel so sad. I feel so sad. She went on and on for five minutes about how sad she feels all the time. It's her constant state. Okay. She comes once a week as well. We did a session on her being sad. The next week, I said, okay, so how you doing? How's your week? My week's great. Yeah, it's really good. She's talking about a minute. I said, do you remember your feeling so sad? Oh yeah. I forgot that. That's what happens. Truly so many times. Goodness. The biggest transformation. There has been so many.
One Woman’s Experience with Trapped Emotions
There was a woman who had an experience when she was 19. And we were going through, releasing all the imbalances. The first three, everything was 19. The first three, she says, huh, nothing happened at 19. Now we get to number five imbalance. Nothing happened at 19. Now we get to number seven imbalance. She says, oh, I know what happened at 19. Well, she remembered. What happened was she was pregnant. Her parents brought her to her hospital. They apparently put her in a basement in a dark room and drugged her. Remember she's 66 and here she's 19 when this happened to her. She had the baby, drugged, alone in a dark room. But the thing was, psychologically she's dealt with everything in her mind. She'd been for counseling after counseling and everything was dealt with. Logically, she was fine. Energetically, it was all trapped. And her session actually, we were working on fear. So, that's what was trapped in her body, that fear. I'm sure there's other modalities, but this modality is so good at clearing that energy from the past. Psychologically, she had it dealt with. That was a massive shift for me. Well, a massive awareness to understand how powerful this modality actually is. We can have it sorted out in our minds just fine, but our body still hangs on to that energy.
DS: Yeah.
Nothing Will Come Up That’s Not Ready To Be Released
LT: Another one was a woman was raped and didn't tell anybody about it. And her session came up and she was 14 or 15 when it happened. And I could tell what was going on. And she said, do you want me to tell you what happened and said, you don't have to, it sense to me like you were raped. And she says, no, I was gang raped. And I told no one about it. Well, in this session she was laughing. She was crying. And I'm thinking, are you okay? She said, yes, I'm fine. And I'm thinking, okay, Lynn. I had to trust the process because all these things get released from her subconscious mind. That's where it's all trapped. And her subconscious mind, its job is to protect us. So, nothing is going to come up that you cannot handle. Nothing's going to come up that is not ready to be released. This woman, she was laughing and crying at the end of the session says, I just feel so good.
Releasing Shame and Guilt through Emotion Code Sessions
LT: I checked in with her a couple days later, she actually told friends about what happened to her. We weren't even working on that event. We could work on an event, or we could work on a feeling or we could work on a trigger or we could work on something emotional or physical. We weren't even working on that event, and this came up. And she says, I've told a couple friends about it. And she says, now, when I look back at that, it's like an event that happened without the shame and the guilt that went along with it. It's like she gets to look at it through a clear lens. So that was powerful.
Staying Joyful as a Lightworker
DS: Yeah. I bet. This just must be such rewarding work. And you know, even in mediumship, we deal with heavy topics. We deal with sensitive grief. And I have to say one thing I really love about you as a light worker is you're so joyful. Like you can just tell you love your work and that you get a lot of joy out of it. So, how do you keep yourself so joyful and so hopeful when you are working with people who have such deep pain?
LT: I don't even think about that, you know. I go into it and I just love it so much. I just love it so much. And I know how much relief and improvement it has brought on my life. That for me, I just go into it and of course I do a shield. Of course I use my oils. That's a big part of it too, but I go into it with the intention of love. I go into it with my higher power and I go into it expecting a miracle. And I just pour love onto these people because everybody just wants to feel better and do better.
Entering Sessions With Love, and Expecting a Miracle
LT: And there's absolutely nothing. I have heard nothing. People will say, oh, well this must be strange, or I don't even know how to explain this. I just get them to talk. For the first three minutes, I get them to talk. How are you feeling? And they talk and lots of times they don't even know what to work on, but they're telling me many things that they don't know they're saying, when they're telling me how they're feeling. And we work on that. So for me, I just go into it with love, expecting a miracle, and know it will work. And it does, if the person's receiving it in the same manner.
LT: There was one session that kind of made me think about it the next day, like, oh boy. And other than that, it just bounces right off because it's not my energy to take. It's their energy for us to clear.
Healthy Boundaries as a Lightworker
DS: Yeah. Yeah. I love that. And I think that there's like some really healthy boundaries. Doing that protective work is really important as well. I remember one of the things that stuck out for me a lot, and this is gonna be quite personal, but I'm very personal on my podcast. I remember coming to you early on in our time together and saying, you know, sometimes I just don't know if I wanna be seen anymore. I don't know if I'm like making a difference and like how I'm showing up. There was a lot of that. And I remember you came up with, and I'm gonna use this language, and we're gonna clear up this language. Right. But it was like, oh, there was like a curse or somebody not wishing you well. And you came up specifically with a gender. You're like, it was a male.
And this happened in June. And you came up with like a date and a month. And my brain kind of exploded because that June I had fired my male coach, um, because he went Qanon and I am not Qanon. And so, I had to let him go. And it was just, you said, you know, there's this kind of like curse and it doesn't have to be mal-intended, cause we're human. We're human beings trying to survive and thrive here. But it was to not be seen and heard, and not to be successful. And that was exactly what was coming up for me. So, I had a lot of questions for you around that language of curse, because I come from a very different background, I think. And I was like, whoa, whoa, like I'm picturing curse like somebody has like a circle with candles and like, a sacrifice of some kind.
LT: Yeah.
Language Around Emotions and “Curses”
DS: And it was just somebody not wishing me well, and it was very accurate, in what you were saying. So, can you speak a little bit more about like that situation? What comes up for you when I share that experience with you? And then talk a bit about the languaging around like curse and all that fun stuff.
LT: I do remember that specifically. Yeah. Yeah. We did do that. And curses. I just got certified with the Emotion Code first. And then I did my session with a certified Body Code person. And things like that came up for me. And am my ever glad it did because she explained it so perfectly. Well for me. If I just came across that, just being a new Emotion Code person, I wouldn't be here today. I would've ran, because who wants to deal with things like that? But that's all it is, is negative energy. So, I've told this story on a prior podcast, but I'm going to repeat it because it's a perfect example of a curse.
Lynn’s Personal Experience with “Curses”
LT: My son wasn't going to school very often. He had a lot of anxiety in grade eight and grade nine. And I was driving to work, and again it's another day where he's phoning me telling me he is not gonna go to school. He had his stomach ache and this and that. And I thought, here we go again. I'd already been talked to at work. Don't be on the phone talking to your kid about going to school when you're supposed to be working. We may have to let you go. Being a single mom, you know, I'm just trying to get him to school, right. So, I hung up the phone. This is the very important part. I hung up the phone. He could not hear me and I screamed as loud as I could out of complete frustration. Now let's also say I've always loved my kid and been very close to him. And we're always been good friends and I've enjoyed him all the way through growing up. But in this moment of frustration, I screamed, now I know my some species eat their young.
LT: That's first thing I screamed. And then I screamed just go to school. Okay, so now I'm doing a session on him and this was about six months ago. Now he was 14 when I did that. And I came across a curse that I put on him when he was 14, not for him to stand in his own power, because of that very moment.
DS: Hmm.
Watching Our Words and Emotions
LT: Did I intentionally curse him? No, I was just so frustrated. Like, can't you just go to school? I just felt like, we talked about this the night before. Here we go again. So, it's as simple as that. Everywhere, every positive thinking book, the Bible, all said, watch what you say. Watch what you think. Watch it. We've gotta watch our words. We've gotta watch our thoughts. Keep them positive and light, for that reason. And especially also, you know, what we send out comes back to us tenfold. So that was another good reason to watch ourselves.
The Emotion Code Sessions as Self Care
DS: Yeah. And that was a huge teaching and lesson for me personally, what I experienced, because ever since then, like if I had some sort of conflict come up in my membership or with a client, like one thing I went to you for is like, can you clear anything reciprocal, right? Like what they may be sending my way, even unintentionally, and me to them as well. Like just wanting to make sure that the energy is like super, super clear, right. Because it can just compound if we don't deal with it. So your sessions for me are like a huge act of self care. They're a huge act of energetic boundaries for me as well, because it made sense to me when you phrased it like that. The curse, and I'm putting that in air quotes, could just very well be anger or just not wishing someone well. It doesn't mean what I was describing earlier, which was totally like The Craft scene.
More Interactions that Showed Lynn about “Curses”
LT: Exactly. Another thing that happened too. Recently, when I was doing my practicum, I had got this woman on the phone for the Emotion Code. And I had never met her before. And this was, you know, a couple years ago now. Just like last month I had the opportunity to meet her. And so we were at a wedding shower and I said, oh, hi, how are you? You know, I'm Lynn. And then we were talking back and forth and she says, oh, how's your practice going? And I went on to tell her how good it was doing and how I'm going full-time. And she was asking me questions. So, I was answering them. I wasn't being braggy at all about it. I was just answering questions. We talked for about 15 minutes about it.
Identifying and Clearing Negativity in Sessions
LT: And the next day I get up and I'm walking to the bathroom going, I don't feel great. This is just like last month. And I thought of her and I thought, did she put any curses on me? And it was, yes. And I'm like what? There were curse after curse after curse. Two sessions, post hypnotic suggestions. That's a negative statement stuck in the subconscious regarding either entity could put it there, or a negative person, or you could get it from a repetitive beat, all kinds of things, from her. I had two sessions I had to clear and I'm like, oh my gosh, and automatically think, what did I do wrong? Was I being braggy? I'm going, no, I wasn't at all. I was just answering her questions and I was excited, but she was not in a positive place in her life. She was waiting for a hip replacement and she was in a lot of pain and she wasn't even working. She was probably wishing that she can move forward with her life too. So, I don't think she intentionally did that. Again, I think it came from a place of lack where she wasn't in her life.
Envy vs. Jealousy, and Clairsentience
DS: Yeah. Yeah. A little bit of envy, maybe there, right. And yeah. We talk a lot about the difference between jealousy and envy. Envy being in the presence of an expander, in somebody who we want a little bit of what they have, but not understanding that we can be empowered enough to go pursue it ourselves if we want. Right.
LT: Exactly.
DS: So I get that. I feel like that a lot. And that's come when I teach things like clairsentience, for people who are very sensitive energetically, it's like asking like, is this mine? That's what I usually ask myself first, like, is this mine? And then choosing to carry what is only mine. So, I've experienced that as well. And it makes a lot of sense. Now you just said another word I would love to talk about on the podcast, which is around entities. You said it, I wasn't gonna bring it up. Being a medium, we maybe have like a different language for some of the spiritual things. So, when you talk about like entities, like, what are we talking about? What are we saying?
Different Descriptors for Negative Energy
LT: Just like a dark energy, you know, that's all it is. It's a negative energy. Dr. Brad explains it as when we're vibing high, they love to jump aboard because they don't want our light to shine. And when we're vibing low, they jump aboard because it's free taxi ride. And there's a variety of different kinds, from being mildly irritating to more intense. And they're just cleared. And I know the first time for me, this was really strange. The first time that came up, I thought, okay, what is that? Okay. Don't. I'm not gonna think about it. It's gone, so who really cares? You know, but I was kind of new to all these type of words, and I pictured it as something entirely different.
Lynn’s Experience with Negative Energy
LT: So for me, the first time it came up and cleared, I noticed whenever I went in my closet to put clothes away, or whenever I went to the spice rack to get spices, basically my whole life, it was kind of like a buzzy feeling around my head. I didn't know it was even there until it was gone. And I would just have to concentrate on getting the spice I wanted or concentrate on hanging up my shirt. But as soon as that was cleared, I would go in my closet, hang up my clothes. I'd get the spices. And I went, hey, wait a minute. That feeling was gone. What? Wow. I wonder if that was from those entities. I don't have any idea. I just know it's gone. They just can come aboard and lower our vibration.
DS: Yeah.
LT: And we can clear them.
Darker Energy in Mediumship Experiences
DS: Yeah. I feel like in mediumship, we're taught to bypass that aspect of spirituality quite a bit. Right? It doesn't exist. It doesn't make sense. And I shared one episode a while ago, about my experience of darker energy. And we've definitely had to clear a couple things in some of my sessions too. So I appreciate you being open to sharing about it and not making it super dramatic. Right?
LT: Oh, it's not. It's not, it's just energy. Right? So, so the thing is with energy, it's gone. We don't focus on it. What you focus on grows, as you know, which is why you do what you do. But no, we don't need to focus on that. It's just energy. You don't give it any power. If it comes up, you just clear it away, and it's good. It's good to be gone.
DS: Yeah. I love that.
LT: Like that ex-boyfriend we don't want around anymore. It's good to be gone.
Integrating The Emotion Code with Intuition
DS: Mm-hmm. Mercury retrograde coming up. They might become a back, but no. Okay. So another thing I really wanted to ask you was like, I look at the example I gave you about my old coach and it felt to me, like there was a lot of intuition there as well. So I'm curious about the balance between what you do, how you do, how much of it is the structure that you were given for the modality and how much of it is intuitive, like your intuitive abilities.
LT: I am intuitive. Yes. So I guess for a lot of people, it's hard for them because I think they have to stay within the box. Yes. When I do my body mode sessions, I'm muscle testing to ask which category. But when we talk about curses, there is no form for curses. I just follow my intuition and I come up with the words and sometimes I say words that don't even make sense. And I go, does this make sense to you? And they say yes. And then there's image energies too.
Clairvoyance, Animals, and The Emotion Code
LT: So, it's an image that can sometimes come up. And one girl, I said to her, you were this age and I see you at a door with a great big suitcase. And she says, oh, I remember that. She was in some sort of ministry and she had a big suitcase. She says, I remember that. And it came with a feeling. So, a lot of that is intuitive. Many times with a lot of my clients I'll even have an answer, even before I ask the question. I have to go through the whole rigmarole because I'm supposed to, but many of my clients, I get the answer right away.
LT: So, I do animals as well. And with animals, I've been not even using the chart because it just grows right. The more you use it, the more it grows, the more your intuition grows. So it's just getting stronger and stronger. That's how it works.
Pivoting to Intuitive Readings
DS: Yeah. I mean, I'm just kind of throwing this out there, but do you see a time for yourself where you may be offering a new type of session, which is just like Lynn, the intuitive?
LT: Do you know? It's funny, you should say that. I am gonna be creating some programs, yes. Somebody else mentioned that to me. Lynn, I see you creating your own modality and it has been twigging around every now and then in here. So perhaps.
DS: Yeah. Well, one of the pieces of feedback, I was just talking to one of my students. Her name's Erica. And she just interviewed me on her podcast. If I had the name off the top of my head, I would definitely give it a shout out, but we are all intuitive as her Instagram handle. I just like to give credit where credit's due. And she brought up something that was like very accurate, because you're the only Emotion Code person I've ever seen. But what I have heard from her and from some other students, like, you know, I've been to others, but Lynn's just different. Right. There's something about the way that Lynn does it that's different. And my intuition is that's your intuition. Because I look at some of the experiences that we had together, and I was like that's not on the chart. Like this came through like Lynn's intuition. Right.
Going Deep with Intuition and Energy Clearing
LT: Well, thank you. Yes, you're right. It's not on the chart. It's not. And it's funny you say that because I just met with Rachel from Discover Healing. She's the person that takes care of the people, the practitioners. And we just did sessions on each other just today. And she said to me today, which I thought was a huge compliment, she said, Lynn, I have had other people do sessions on me and never have I felt the energy move, ever, like it does with you. And I thought, wow, what a huge compliment. So I said, thank you. I receive that. And what came up with her, she was very surprised this thing came up, because we were just working on getting things done and moving forward with life. And the stuff that came up, she was actually very surprised that that issue came up.
DS: Yeah.
LT: But I find that that happens quite a bit. And thank you. I really appreciate you bringing that up because that has been brought to my attention recently.
Lynn’s Spiritual Origins and History
DS: Yeah. Well, as somebody who works with intuitives as her career, like you can see it as clear as day. And the truth is like, I don't know a lot about your history. Maybe that's a good thing to ask. You know, is what you're doing in alignment with how you were before? Because what you're doing right now is quite spiritual. Have you always been spiritual in some way, and does this conflict at all with maybe beliefs that you've had before?
LT: Well, it's funny. When I was younger, I was extremely, extremely intuitive. Very, very intuitive. So much so it was frightening and I blocked it. I blocked it. I had an experience that scared me and I blocked it. And then I was adopted, so I met my birth mom, and she told me that her mother did tea leaves and her great grandmother did everything you can imagine. She did all that. And then it gave me more reason to block it, right.
LT: And then, of course, I do have my higher power and I do believe in God. And so my whole thing was, this came up and I thought, is this okay for me to do this? Is this okay for me to do this? I don't wanna get up there and having them say, Hey lady, you did wrong. Open the fricking thing and drop me down in hell. I don't wanna do that.
Lynn’s Calling, The Emotion Code, and Intuitive Work
I was always concerned because I was hypersensitive to it all, right? And the more I did, and the more I did, I knew it was right, and the more doors were opening. And the more people I told, the people that I thought would kind of strain me another way, they didn't. And then it got to the point where I started asking, you know, is this my calling? And yeah, it is. And then it was okay, what if you couldn't do this? What if you could only choose one thing, this over that? It would be this. And then I realized how very much aligned I am with it, how very easy it is for me to do it. Yesterday, I did 14 sessions. I was not tired. It energizes me. I had a full time job. I was working eight hours. And then at the end of the day, I'd run to the bathroom and I'd be like, oh, tired. And then I start my session, I'd be up and ready, you know, and I'd do four sessions and then be great. So I don't find it draining. I find it super, super, super energizing. And yes, it is aligned and it is certainly making me comfortable with the gift that I was given, because it truly is a gift.
Moving to Full Time in Spiritual Work
DS: Yeah. It absolutely is. And would you be willing to share a little bit about the story of how this unfolded for you to go full time? Because I know in the time that we're working together, like I'm just a natural entrepreneur. I love entrepreneurship. And like we talked a few times throughout our sessions about just different entrepreneurial things and I'm like, you. Be busy enough to be able to go full time. And then you started contemplating, well, I would need XXX, which is like the golden handcuffs and da, da, da. But do you wanna share like how aligned this actually was?
Spiritual Entrepreneurship Growth
LT: You actually had a huge part in this. And I thank you. I will be forever grateful for you because you're the one that sort of brought that to my attention. When I started this, I honestly just thought I'd be really lucky if I got five sessions a week, which is really funny because that's when I started and now I'll do like five sessions a day.
LT: And then it's just grown. It's just grown and keeps growing. After you kind of planted that little seed, it started to grow. And then I was getting more uncomfortable in my day job, which I had for 11 years. And it was a good job and I'm grateful I had it. And then the day job started getting a little bit slower over the past couple years.
Transitioning from Corporate Work to Spiritual Entrepreneurship
LT: So I was able to do sessions. Sorry if any of you have day jobs listening. So I was able to do sessions during the day sometimes. Right. I just started expanding and then I was getting more and more uncomfortable in my day job, now seeing myself more and more doing this full time. You know, how you get that, you see yourself doing this, but you're stuck doing that. And you're just like uncomfortable.
LT: And then I started thinking, okay, so I'm gonna be done this by September. I'm gonna be done the day job by September. I get my sister hired in the job that I had with corporate America. And she starts in March and I said, I hope you know I'll probably be gone by the end of the summer. I'm not gonna have time to train you completely. And she did not believe me. Anyway. I warned her. The more I started thinking about it, the more I wanted, the more I visualized it, I'd sit here at my desk and I would just visualize doing this full time.
Taking Early Retirement from Corporate to Begin Spiritual Work Full Time
LT: Okay. So then, I'm on holidays for my birthday. I come back and there's this email and it says, early retirement incentive program. First I'm insulted. Number one, I'm not old enough to retire, but I was that magic age that they gave, right. And you had to do with the company for two years or longer. And I was with the company for 11. And I was so insulted. And then I thought the next day, what? This is exactly what I want. I was to quit a couple months anyway, cause I needed to make so much money a week. I have this thing each week I have to make so much money. And if I make this much money for three to six months and I'm leaving, cause I don't wanna do this anymore. And then they actually offered to buy me out, several thousand dollars, if I said yes. I didn't even ask my partner. I asked no one for their advice.
Asking for Soul Guidance in Spiritual Entrepreneurship Development
I sat there and I meditated and I'm like, okay, what do you wanna do? And I really let my soul speak to me. And I heard, this gift was given to you. Are you going to stamp on it and walk away and treat it like garbage? Or are you gonna pick it up, and say thank you, and be grateful? And then I thought, what if you couldn't do this? How would you feel? And I felt like my soul would be smothered. I thought, no, that's my answer. I'm going to do it. So I told them, I said, yes, I'm gonna do it. I told my partner. So, I'm probably gonna say yes, that I'm gonna do this. He says, I don't think you should. And I said, sorry, I didn't ask you. I didn't ask your opinion, because I know you're not gonna be on board. It's my life and my business. Nobody else can live your life, but you. So you better walk in the path that you want. Wear the shoes you want, because it's your life. Nobody can tell you what to do in your life. And I thought, I don't care what you say. I'm doing it. And it's just been better and better. And it was literally just given to me. I was gonna do it anyway. And now I'm able to do it with a cushion that I'm just gonna put away.
DS: Isn't that like, and I'm covered in shivers and I hope you all grasp the gravity of this. Okay. So Lynn's deciding for herself, earlier this year, like, I think I wanna do this full time. Meanwhile, the day job becomes more uncomfortable, which is a great word to use it. Then you have this goal, like September. I'll be done by September. And what was your last day?
Lynn Believing In Herself and in Her Spiritual Work
LT: What was my last day? The 22nd or something? And the funny thing was, I've got some certificates behind me and the first one is the Emotion Code certificate. So, I rearranged my office and I looked on the date of it and it was issued August 21st, 2020. Okay. The Emotion Code certificate. And then I hung it up and rearranged my office to start on August 22nd. Right? Full time. I hung it up on August 21st, 2022. And I thought, ah, look at that, who would've known. I mean, I hoped and wished and dreamed. Yeah. But I don't think I really believed that it would come to fruition because I guess I didn't really believe in myself. But the more work I do, I believe in myself now. I believe in this modality and I believe this is just the beginning and there's so much more to come.
DS: Yes. And it happened better than you could have expected.
When Things Turn Out Better Than Expected
LT: Better than I ever could have expected. I listened to your podcast too, after I made my decision on how to make that transition and that was really helpful. And yes, even before you said that, I did get ahold of the bank.
DS: Yes. I'm like just rack up your available credit. There's something like psychologically. Realistically, it feels so obvious. Like I know that when I was faced with a decision and I had a medical crisis that required me to be off of work. And I think at work I was making about $300 a day, which is a lot. For a day job. Like I was getting paid a lot.
LT: That's what I was getting paid. It's hard to let go of that right.
The Economics of Corporate Work vs. Spiritual Work
DS: Hard to let go. But then I'm mathing some math and I'm like, but my sessions are $150 at the time. I'm like, I would have to do two, you know, like two a day. There's something about the conditioning we have in our current day society that still tricks us that this is safer. Like this is safer, but it's not.
LT: It's not, I'll tell you why. Do you think that company was actually giving us payouts because it was secure? No. Part of me was going, oh my goodness. You know what? This is scary. I'm going, is it really? Is it really? Come on, Lynn. This is what's happening. You're leaving a current job that's iffy, okay. And you're going to a new employer, which is me. And I know I'm really good. And I know I'm good to myself, so I already know what I'm gonna get. So it's like going to a new job that I get to create and design. I already know what I'm in for. Yeah. If I were to leave that job for another job, we don't know what we're in for. And we get to create our own economy.
Finances and Spiritual Entrepreneurial Work
DS: Yes. I was just gonna say that like we're heading into a recession. And I have to say, I had this moment. Like my interest rates for my house right now is like 1.2. And when I renew, it's gonna be at like 7%. So like thousands of dollars a month more for my mortgage. But I'm not scared because in my current reality, I could make more if I wanted to. I don't work a lot because I like to have a lot of free time. So, what I make right now gets me by, pays for my team. You know, I'm not super financially driven, but I do have the opportunity to potentially bring more if I needed to make more. And I didn't have that. I was like, I feel bad if I was at my old job because at the 2% increase every year, it just can't keep up.
LT: You lose money every year.
Deconditioning, and Ideas Around Work and Finances
DS: Cost of living. Yeah. It's costing me more to work here to gas. I'm filling my tank twice a week. That would be almost $300 right now just to commute to my job. So, the other thing I would like to kind of say to people as part of this story is, this is one thing I really promote, and it's not leaving your comfortable job, and it is comfortable until it's not. It's worth it to build something on the side. Right. Like I accredit the success I have at Squamish Medium and Spirit School by building it and building my reputation, my confidence on the side of what was giving me regular income. And I think that there's something really valuable in that. There's a lot of people who are like, it's all or nothing. I just found this, I wanna make a go at it, but that pressure can really mess with you. Right? You don't wanna come at your spiritual business from this place of pressure. So that's the gift that you got was like this cushion, that was a couple months of income, so that that could also take away some of the pressure, right? You're gonna have a lot of deconditioning to do, even now that you're full time on the time money exchange, right. That doesn't exist in spiritual entrepreneurship like it does in the nine to five. There's a lot of unpacking and deconditioning, and there's gonna be a lot of things that surprise you.
The Journey of Transitioning to Spiritual Work Full Time
DS: I can't wait to see how your journey goes. And I wouldn't even say that to everybody, like have you thought about going full time? Like you definitely have the client base. You definitely have the reputation, the skill. I was just saying that on my podcast interview, I was being interviewed on Erica's podcast where they said that. And like, my work asked me to come do readings there in a couple weeks and it's not gonna work out, but I was like, why would they do that? Everyone who works with me quits job. Pretty much everyone who comes into proximity of me quits their job.
LT: Well, it's been a blessing. It's been just wild, you know? And like you said, well, we touched on, we get to create our own economy. Wanna know something right now? My old boss is calling me, right this minute, as we do this podcast. I'm not kidding you. Right here? Right this minute.
DS: Are your ears like burning boss? He's like, did you just admit to like working during work hours?
LT: I did. Wonder if he knew about that.
DS: She goes I'm not coming back. Okay.
Visioning For the Future
LT: But what about this? Who says you're gonna have a mortgage? We can create what we want. You could have a mortgage paid off. There's that option. That's my plan. When my mortgage is due June 2024, I plan on having it paid off.
DS: Yeah, I wanna live on a lake. I want lake front, paid in cash. And we already have a ton of equity in this home. Like I actually don't have that far to go for that dream because we bought this place way before the boom. Right. And so feel very lucky about that. But yeah, there's so much opportunity, but sometimes in the mindset we can get really caught up in what could potentially not work. But then like what you have evidence of now, which I love, is that you desired something and it turned out better than you could expect.
LT: It did. And it always does. Every time I look back, it always does. Why do we question our internal nudges?
DS: The amygdala. The amygdala.
The Amygdala and Limiting Beliefs
LT: Amygdala, we can work on that Amygdala ladies, and men. We could also work on these limited beliefs. And that's the other thing that's coming. That's the other thing that's coming by the way. They're coming up with a Belief Code. So I will be certified for that. And that is where they take those limited beliefs, which I do anyway in my Body Code sessions because that's the other thing that's intuitive. You have to know the questions to ask, to dig out. So, that comes from intuition. If you don't have that, then it's very difficult to do a successful Body Code session. You've gotta read between the lines, feel the person's energy. So I do a lot of that, just with the way I do my Body Code sessions, but you are coming up with an actual Belief Code. That's gonna be cool. We'll try that out. And I'm not shut down to anything. We've cleared people's businesses, the negative energies around their businesses. I had a bird feeder out front that wasn't getting any birds and I went, why? I cleared the energy around the birds, and the bird feeder, and the birds came. And somebody else had this massive yellow sapphire gem. I had no idea it could be that big. And they wanted me clear the energy from all their jewelry, so I did that. I mean, that was.
DS: yeah. You're like, let's try.
LT: Let's give it a go. What's gonna happen? Let's try it.
The Importance of Mindset
DS: Yeah. And I love the idea, because I know even just from knowing you for like this past year, like you're very passionate about mindset. And that comes across in more of like even the coaching that you do, just so naturally through your sessions. And I think that would be an incredible fit for you because I know you're very passionate about that area.
LT: I have added in actually. That's funny, you say that. Yes, I've added coaching into my services because I do coach people all the time. Yeah. So it is a mindset coaching and I'm calling myself a freedom coach because that's exactly what we're doing. We're freeing ourselves from limitations. I'm adding it into the website and I just added it into Instagram actually. But yeah, because it's all mindset and the programs I'm creating are going to be about that too. I'm creating a program called Worthless to Wonderful.
DS: Mmm, beautiful.
Trapped Imbalances Regarding Worthiness
LT: Because so many of us have these trapped imbalances regarding worthless. And it's just ridiculous.
DS: Yeah. I think mine always sounded like worthlessness and there was two, like, they sound so similar, but they're different.
LT: Oh, unworthy and worthless.
DS: Unworthy and worthless. It's like unworthy, worthless, unworthy, worthless. I'm like, great. But they're different. There's mine too is humiliation.
LT: Yes. Yours was. And yours also, am I allowed to say what it was?
DS: Of course. Yes I'm okay.
LT: Yours was also pride. Your pride being hurt.
DS: Yeah.
LT: This little cutie pie at five with pride being hurt? Like really?
The Emotion Code and Neurodivergence
DS: Yeah. I mean, she sticks with me. Like, yeah, mindset's something that I'm still working on because I just have a really busy mind. So I'd be curious to like, you don't have to answer now, but because there's been so many, like ADHD diagnoses around me, including me being like very, you know, lower grade, highly functioning.
DS: It's like, does it work differently for people who have like, you know, neurodivergency, with like the mindset stuff? Because it's like, you know all the tricks. You know what you're supposed to be doing, but for some reason, the brain just isn't wired like that. Can you heal that?
Examples of Emotion Code Healing Sessions
LT: Oh yeah, we can. I believe we can. This modality that works on people with PTSD. It helps people with that. So yes, of course it can. Yeah, it can. There was a little girl, I mean, this is a bit extreme, but this little girl, I'm sorry to say, was humping everything. She was five and she was humping everything. A couple sessions, she's not anymore. She had a whole bunch of inherited, and she's also alcohol fetal syndrome as well. And she's no longer doing that anymore, but she had the whole lot of inherited. Mom was a prostitute. Dad was a drug addict. So, this modality is pretty amazing.
LT: It's helped a little girl that had night terrors and talking about zombies, because she got up in the middle of the night, sat with dad. Dad was sleeping, but the TV was on and she watched Walking Dead. And so from November until May, she was zombie talking and night terrors. In a couple sessions and it was gone.
DS: Right.
Children and Emotion Code Healing Sessions
LT: So I've seen the kids just get better in school.
DS: Yeah. Well that's my case, right? My son. Yeah. You guys, I have to say, and this is gonna be one of the last questions I ask you, after this. I'm just dying to ask you, but like you help me and my son so much. I'm gonna need more sessions for him by the way. He was having such a hard time at school and it was causing me so much anxiety because I would be fielding these calls and texts all day from teachers and principals and specialists. And Lynn did one session with my son and his shift was so dramatic at school, and I mean the next day, that his teacher was like, what did you do? And she ended up working with you.
LT: Yes, she did.
DS: She witnessed it so much that she was like, what did you do? I was like, well, it's a bit woo, but, you know, I went to an Emotion Code, did trapped emotions, da, da, da. And she was like banging down your door too.
LT: Yeah. And she said her son completely changed as well.
DS: Yeah. So my son's reverted back a little bit. He's had a tough summer, so we're gonna work with you of my minxy man too is, cause I just want him to have fun. You know, I want him to find school fun. But he doesn't like listening. He doesn't like instruction. And he doesn't like it if people think they're mad at him. If he thinks that you're mad at him or you don't like him, he will shut down. So, yeah, anyways, we'll work on that, but it really works for kids. And that leads me to wanna ask you this question around, what makes a successful candidate for the Emotion Code and the body code?
Who is a Good Candidate for Emotion Code Healing?
LT: Well kids, they have no filter. They have no restriction. Animals too. It's the people that are open and want healing. I've done clients where they actually have the resistance to healing. You know, we're doing a session. And then one client said, is it normal that I fall asleep after the session? I was camping. I went to bed. I said, no, it's not normal. So then we checked. Do you have a resistance to healing? And they do. And then we clear it. And that could be it too. The biggest thing is if they think it won't work, it won't. It won't. I mean, I did a session the other day on this fellow that didn't really believe it would work. And I said, okay, well, there's no point in doing the session.
LT: He says, well, I wanna try. I said, okay, if you wanna try, then fine, but just be open and expect miracles. I expect miracles, each and every time, and I do it with love and if they are at least open, then yeah, they too will see the changes. But children are the best because there's no restriction.
DS: Yeah.
LT: Unless they have a resistance to healing. And then we just get to clear that.
Caroline Myss, and Resistance to Healing
DS: Yeah. And I'm obsessed with the work of Caroline Myss. I have been my whole spiritual evolvement journey. And that's one thing that she talks about. She's like, you know, I almost died of shock when I found out that people don't wanna heal. Like there are some people who don't wanna heal.
DS: So, I guess that would be an incredible barrier for the medicine of the Emotion Code. So if people wanna come and experience a session, do you prepare them in the sense where it's like, just come expecting a miracle? Like, is that good advice to kind of say to somebody? Or how would you prepare someone for the Emotion Code?
LT: I'd just say, come open minded. Figure out what you wanna work on. If there's something you wanna work on, we will. I love it when people have something they can gauge from a one to 10. You know, maybe a emotional or physical discomfort, like I did session for someone today. And they discovered they were at at eight. Oh, it was a relationship with her daughter, the anxiety she felt with having to deal with her daughter. She was an eight. And at the end of the session, she was down at a four. But we also talked about mindset and I also gave her exercises to do, which I should separate and just do that in coaching. That's what Danielle would tell me.
Limitations, Mindset, and Coaching
DS: Well, what I said earlier, and I'm glad that you added coaching, I'm like, you just have this natural way of incorporating it. So, I think it's incredibly abundant to just keep going at it with it. But then if people want more of that mindset stuff, they'll be like, Hey, do you do like, just that on the side? And then people will naturally be asking you that. So,
LT: Well, do you remember that question I said to you? We were talking about something and I said to you, well why are you arguing your limitations?
DS: Yes. And I do that a lot, Lynn. Like, we need to do a bit more clearing. I could literally just have you like living here and just be like, okay, let's just have a session over coffee. There's always stuff coming up. I'm like this is for Lynn. And sometimes we struggle with what are we gonna work on? Right.
LT: Write a list. Everybody, so many of my clients have like massive grocery lists, and then I say, what column are we in? How many columns? How many roads?
Trapped Grief in Emotion Code Healing
DS: Yeah. But every session, something new kinda comes up a little bit too. It's like, yeah. I'm like, maybe we actually need like grief for me. Right. Like losing my cat Bender, which has just been two years, the other day. And, holy the grief. I don't even think I was prepared to look at that trapped grief for almost, you know, six, seven months right, into it. And I'm like, okay, I think we're ready now to like, look at this grief.
Emotion Code Healing and Self Care
DS: And so, yeah, I think that, you know, a lot of people who are drawn to listen to the Spirit School podcast are healers themselves. And there's only two healers that I have work on my energy. And that's you and Rae. And I've had Rae on the podcast a few times. But I consider this an act of self care. And so I'm really looking forward to picking up my weekly sessions again, starting next week. I mean, by the time this airs on Tuesday is gonna air next Tuesday, we will have just had our session again. And I took the summer off to just focus on kids and the craziness that it's involved with them. So you bet I need some sessions now.
LT: All right, let's do it.
How to book Lynn Tucknies for Emotion Code Healing
DS: And then how can people find you?
LT: Okay. They can find me on a website, www.innerherohealing.com. They could find me on Instagram. They could also email me lynn@innerherohealing.com.
DS: I love it. I'll have links to everything in the show notes, so you can just quickly link on them. And yeah, Lynn, it's a pleasure. I'm so glad I got to share your energy with everyone today. You have such a lovely energy and I know that Spirit School listeners are just rooting for your success and your new adventure of being full time. Thank you for being here.
LT: Thank you for having me. It's a pleasure.